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    Has anyone here got any good information on the Trekking Registration Certificate? All I can find is a couple of press releases from TAAN...

    http://www.taan.org.np/news_details1.php?nid=274
    Quote Originally Posted by TAAN 20/7/2006
    The government has decided to implement the much-awaited Trekking Registration Certificate (TRC) through Trekking Agents Association of Nepal (TAAN). TAAN had been demanding for the implementation of TRC to check illegal operations in the trekking industry.
    Sounds like the intention is to stop the illegal unregistered tourist agencies, and to establish a central registration of all trekkers. Which is fair enough

    http://www.taan.org.np/news_details1.php?nid=283
    Quote Originally Posted by TAAN 26/7/2006
    As demanded by TAAN, the Nepal Government has introduced the provision of TRC to help control various anomalies, including illegal operation. TRC is likely to come into effect from the last week of September this year. With the implementation of TRC, the visiting trekkers must go on trekking through the registered Nepalese trekking agencies and pay a small amount of money.
    What does this mean for the independent trekker? Is this an effort to make a proper record of who is on the trails (for safety reasons) and to regulate the trekking industry (for commercial reasons)? Or will this mean that all trekking *must* be done via a TAAN agency and we are required to employ guides or go with a group? How will this be implemented, from the details of the restrictions & requirements to the cost of the certificate and services etc.

    Unfortunately we don't know yet. This is due to be implemented at the end of September and we there have been no proper announcements other than the TAAN press releases. Apparently the NTB say independent teahouse trekking will be OK, but TAAN say otherwise, so whom are we to believe? Which government office decided to pass these regulations?

    I have written to both TAAN & NTB to seek some clarification on TRC and its implications for me and the likes of us, I'll report here what they have to say. And if any of you find more info elsewhere on the net then please post links in this thread. I'd also like to hear from any of the Nepali trekking people who frequent this forum, both from TAAN agencies and also the independent guides who like to work with us independent trekkers, we'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on TRC an what it means for you.

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    Default Re: Trekking Registration Certificate & the Independent Trekker

    Oli

    This is the response from NTB to my question of what independent trekkers need to do. My question to them is below.


    "Dear Mr. Wayne,

    It is not necessary for Independent trekkers to go through trekking agencies. However, one has to register with Trekking Agents Association of Nepal before embarking trekking paying a very nominal charge.

    Rgs,

    Sarad Pradhan"

    At 02:51 PM 8/19/2006, you wrote:

    As a regular visitor to Nepal in recent years I am surprised to hear yet another certificate will be required to trek. Please tell me if independent trekkers will still be able to trek without using a trekking agency and needing to obtain this certificate ?

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    Thanks Boulia. That is pretty much what the NTB told thesilvertops, but Rajendra (Third Pole Trekking, IIRC) says that is "none sense" and "Trekkers have to join with the company". [see this thread on Yetizone]

    So it seems to me that TAAN and NTB disagree on the TRC, and it doesn't help that they are giving us conflicting advice. Well, sort of, neither of them have answered my email.

    As it happens I'm considering hiring a guide & porter for a Langtang teahouse trek next spring - but I'm loathe to go with any agency who tell me I have to use their services when actually I don't. Oh well. I expect it'll all work out in the end.

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    I've had an email from NTB, who say "There is no need to take the service of a porter or a guide against your wish especially in areas that have tea houses along the trekking trail." - and reiterated that point, including use of italics for emphasis.

    And I've had a couple of emails from someone via TAAN, but they didn't contain any useful into.

    Also Andrees found this statement, which says (amongst other fluff) that the TRC will cost trekkers 250NRs, a token amount, but I am sure it'll cost a whole lot more to implement.

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    I got the same information and impressions as Oli and Boulia. There is still a lot to be understood in terms of how this policy is going to pan out. The good news from the trekkers perspective is that they can still trek independently if they wish.
    The move appears to be aimed at stamping out independent guides/porters, and driving trekkers towards the "registered trekking agencies".
    This would be a big blow to competitiveness, in my opinion.

    The full implications are not very clear. I believe Oli has asked some hard questions, or someone...
    For example what about deciding in Namche, or Chame or wherever, that I need a guide, or a porter? Who in his right mind will be able to force me and police me that that person is registered with a trekking agency? We know they won't be. Not unless Nepal becomes as efficient as Switzerland all of a sudden. Big heffers do fly, we all know that. On the other hand, just having a guide, and pretending he's not your guide until you get past the check point... (I assume there will be one, and I assume they will not stop the flow of Nepalis "going about their business"...). There are all sorts of situations. There will be some corruption of officials at checking points (again, assuming there will be check points).
    I will not be stopped by some official I can bribe with 500 rupees to let me go through with my guide, anymore than I was stopped by the Maoists demanding money. I know others have higher morals and standards and I agree to disagree.

    Most probably, big trekking agencies will benefit, first-timers may well flock to them in greater numbers.

    But the system will be fairly porous and people who know their stuff will still go about their buisness the way they have done it in the past.
    yakshaver

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    Hi,
    Please see answer from TAAN for my question regarding independent trek (witout guide/porter).

    rgds
    daras

    ::: answer from TAAN ::: 28.09.2006 :::

    Dear Mr. Darek,
    Trekking rules of Nepal has been recently changed so please read the file
    attached herewith throughly before you visit Nepal. I think this document
    will be helpful to you.

    Regards
    Trekking Agents Association of Nepal (TAAN)


    Nepal Government assigns TAAN to implement

    Trekking Registration Certificate (TRC)




    Registration Required for trekkers


    With a view to checking illegal operations in the trekking business and
    ensuring safety and security of trekkers, the Nepal Government has
    introduced a new rule that requires all trekkers to go on trekking in
    various parts of the country only through registered trekking agencies after
    having a Trekking Registration Certificate (TRC) from Trekking Agents
    Association of Nepal (TAAN). As an umbrella organization of more than 550
    registered trekking companies of Nepal, TAAN has been authorized by the
    Nepal Government to issue TRC and the new rule is scheduled to come into
    force from October 1, 2006. TAAN will charge a minimum amount of money as
    administrative and service fee for issuing TRC. As a record of trekkers, TRC
    incorporates their personal details, trekking routes, duration, etc. The
    provision is introduced in order to upgrade the service standard and for
    better management of sustainable mountain tourism development in Nepal.
    Trekking without TRC is illegal and subject to charge fines and other
    punishments in accordance with the laws of the Nepal Government.


    Importance and Necessity of TRC


    It is very important to have a kind of monitoring and facilitating system in
    place for any sort of outdoor activity that involves physical risk. Trekking
    is a major outdoor activity in Nepal's mountain tourism. Given the rugged
    physical condition and remoteness of almost all trekking areas of Nepal's
    Himalayan mountain region, a record system is very essential that would be
    helpful in monitoring the safety and security of trekkers. The past
    experiences have shown that difficulties have been faced while carrying out
    rescue operations promptly during the times of natural calamities. Because
    of lack of proper record system of trekkers, their exact whereabouts and the
    information about trekking routes, rescue and search missions used to face
    difficulties in spotting the trekkers missing.


    The Nepal Government is very serious about implementing TRC as a mechanism
    to control all sorts of anomaly, including illegal operations, and ensure
    safety and security of trekkers. Therefore, TAAN, as a national tourism
    organization working in the field of sustainable mountain tourism in Nepal,
    has been entrusted with the responsibility of implementing TRC. As per TAAN'
    s proposed hassle-free procedure, TRC is being issued to each and every
    trekker traveling only through the registered trekking agencies.



    The decision regarding the introduction of TRC is a welcome step taken in
    its policies and programmes by the Nepal Government. So, TAAN is in the
    process of developing a well-managed and efficient system with nominal
    service charge of Nepali rupees 250 (equivalent US$ 3.5 only) to implement
    TRC in the open trekking areas of Nepal. TRC is going to be issued from
    convenient locations of Kathmandu and Pokhara.









    TRC Issuing System

    The following considerations have been taken into account in the process of
    issuing TRC:



    1. All important details of trekkers and trekking routes will be maintained
    on a computerized record system that may be useful for safety and security
    of trekkers and field-staff.



    2. The data generated from the system will be useful to all stakeholders --
    tourism organizations, government agencies, diplomatic missions, tour
    operators, research institutes, etc.



    3. Unauthorized trekking operations will be controlled, thus, resulting into
    better management of trekking service and in benefit of all concerned -
    trekkers, agencies, field - staff, government, etc. and also occasional
    untoward incidents will be better prevented.



    4. TAAN will be able to work more in its effort of preservation of natural
    and cultural environment in cooperation with local communities. This, in
    turn, will enable to promote sustainable tourism.



    5. The issue of TRC will be so simplified that it would be prompt and
    inexpensive. The convenient TRC counter in Kathmandu will remain open 12
    hours a day all the seven days a week round the year. Pokhara counter will
    be opened for 9 hours a day. The TRC counters will be located close to the
    counters of the National Parks and Conservation Areas.



    6. TAAN's Media Centre will have updated information about the conditions of
    trails and other relevant insights into the trekking areas. The same
    information also will be updated frequently in the TAAN's web page. Some of
    the check posts along the trekking routes will be equipped with telephone
    services by TAAN.



    Appeal

    All the concerned government agencies have been requested to provide
    required cooperation to TAAN in TRC implementation and monitoring process.
    While developing the TRC issuance mechanism, TAAN has made it sure that a
    well organized efficient system is developed. Any inconvenience that may
    arise due to implementation of this new rule is regretted.


    TAAN also asks all concerned stakeholders to help disseminate the
    information to potential trekkers to Nepal and other related offices and
    agencies.


    Thank you for your kind support and cooperation.



    For further information, please contact at TAAN Media Centre

    P.O. Box: 3612 Ganeshthan, Maligaon, Kathmandu, Nepal

    Tel: 977-1-442773, 977-1-4440920, 977-1-4440921, Fax: 977-1-4419245

    Email:taan@wlink.com.np; taan@mail.com.np Url: www.taan.org.np

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    I for one am gutted about this new TAAP bulls**t. I am between jobs and had the opportunity to go back to Nepal for 3 weeks. Was about to book flights but am not prepared to pay TAAP to NOT take a guide!

    These guys are basically a monopoly that will try to drive independent guides, lodges and eateries out of business (because guides will take trekkers wherever their commission is best) and generate huge profits for doing nothing. This will exacerbate an already dire situation for Nepali's who are desperate for their substantial tourist trade to resume after the recent perceptions of Maoist trouble amongst foreigners.

    I am happy to leave a record of my trek for safety reasons etc but am at a loss to explain why this could not be done by entering the old ACAP permit details on a computer database. Apart from anything else, as Yakshaver says, its the adventure and the wilderness that lots of trekkers go to Nepal for - if I want sanitised adventure I'll go to a theme park!

    So Namaste to my Gurung friends in Nepal - I hope your government will allow you to freely ply your trades and I look forward to seeing you in the future - and Ola to my new Spanish friends that I'll meet during my upcoming 3 weeks trekking through the Pyrenees!

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    One other thing...has anyone looked at the TAAN Intoduction which states they are there to "meet their common goals and also assist the government by providing suggestions to develop trekking business into a revenue generating industry"

    Only after this do they mention any environmental aims and nowhere on this page is any safety objective mentioned.

    My feeling is it's all about the money.

    I'd like to hear TAAN's response but as everyone who has tried to contact them has found emails are bounced back as their indox is full and replies they have made seem evasive to say the least.

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    Default Extract of correspondence from TAAN re my upcoming trek Sept/Oct

    Hi Folks,
    For what its worth, I have cut and paste my recent correspondence with TAAN on my upcoming Sept/Oct trek...my original question is at the bottom, TAAN response is on top...

    Dear Todd Delaney,

    If you start your trek before 1st October you can do it without TRC
    but not possible after September.

    TRC mean you must have to join the trekking company and minimum guide
    or porter has to accompany with you from register trekking company
    after September this year. If you need address to obtain your TRC you
    caould ask with any registered trekking company. They will provide your
    TRC.

    Thank you !

    TAAN
    ******
    At 05:38 PM 9/15/2006, you wrote:
    >Hello,
    >I am a trekker from Australia and will be starting a trek to Gokyo
    >and EBC on September 29 and finishing October 17 this year.
    >
    >My understanding is that because I will be getting a Trekking Permit
    >from KTM before October 1 that will not need to also get a TRC for
    >this particular trek because I start the trek before Oct 1 even
    >though I finish the trek in mid Oct.
    >
    >Could you please confirm that my understanding is true and accurate.
    >
    >Todd Delaney

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    @ all,
    2x the same message:

    Andrées on YetiZone this morning (English)
    Andrées on Trekkingforum this morning (German)

    A fellow German poster, Klaus, reported this: correspondence with the Nepalese Embassy in Germany

    So with their reply yesterday, the Embassy confirmed that even on September 20 they had still not received any official information or instructions from their government. And they say that they had much mail from trekkers in respect of the announced new TRC rules, that they would all forward to their government.
    In combination with the news that Andrées posted this morning, it looks like tomorrow's meeting in Kathmandu will bring a kind of final, official "outcome". Or at least "final" for the time being...

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