Can you identify these prints?

[rich]

Allow my to make a fool of myself

Can you identify these prints?
Photographed on ice and snow adjacent to stone building at the Langtang airstrip in February 2008, heading towards Langshisha.

Surprised to find a bear at this altitude in winter, but is the most likely explanation i suppose. Quite possibly the hind prints of a bear, although this is still not convincing.
see
http://icwdm.org/wildlife/bears.asp
Possibly a bear, but this is probably the same animal's footprints as photographed by Shipton in 1951 in Gauri Shankar range.
see
http://anomalyinfo.com/articles/sa00006.shtml

The line footprints were broken and seemed to be about 20m start to finish. No other trace could be found. This seemed to be the best print least affected by sun and wind. Well defined toes.

Not a leopard?
Not a wolf? which i did see nearby, near the trail from Kyangjin up to Ganja La.

rich

[Petrus]

Bear or Yeti. As the yeti is unknown to science bear is the most logical explanation.

I have seen plenty of bear footprints here in Finland.

[Petrus]

Bear or Yeti. As the yeti is unknown to science bear is the most logical explanation.

I have seen plenty of bear footprints here in Finland. Leopard & wolf footprints look like large cat & dog prints, which is not surprising. I have seen snow leopard prints in Chang Tang, plenty wolf prints in eastern Finland.

[Suginami]

Its a Beti. A union between yeti and bear.

[yakshaver]

Its a Beti. A union between yeti and bear.
Only if it is a female. Else, the aformentioned cross is known as a Year. And it is sterile.

[Landfall38]

If they were here in British Columbia, I'd say it was a "Sasquatch".... However, they usually leave behind "Kokanee" droppings nearby....;)

[julia]

I know exactly what it is, it's the footprint from a hobbit. :) They don't wear shoes, as they make their feet sore.

Hobbits don't just live in NZ, but all over the world, the only reason we never see them is because they are like pixies and fairies, you will only see one if you are a believer.

[rich]

Well its obviously Beti (The luscious yeti woman)
Yakshaver please confirm?

Seriously though, if anyone can confirm or deny this is a bear. That would be nice.

rich

[Oli]

Last month a Japanese team found what they believe may be yeti prints near Dhaulagiri. link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/21/nepal-japan) link (http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?nid=164271)

[yakshaver]

Well its obviously Beti (The luscious yeti woman)
Yakshaver please confirm?

Seriously though, if anyone can confirm or deny this is a bear. That would be nice.

rich

Tricksy rich! You try to trap me! You better ask Escher about... Beti, the LYW, and her alleged foot prints.

[Michael Sunkist]

Nameste, I live in bear country where the grizzlies are monstrous. Those are not bear tracks, gaurenteed. Must be yeti, heard of them, heard rumor they live in Nepal highlands. Could also be a prankster with a foot form like we get over here in my neck of the woods where there is also rumor of the hard to find yeti in the highlands. Happy trails.

[rich]

Thanks for that
No, this was early February and there simply were not many people about. Perhaps a few sherpas running lodges and five or so trekkers in Kyangjim. There was noone higher in the valley. It had snowed within the last 24 hours including overnight and these prints were seen by about 9am in the morning. This wasn't a prank I am sure. Only one canadian guy and myself went up the valley that day. So its not a wolf, its not a bear and its not a leopard, and it is more than likely not human...

[Suginami]

it was a porter or a farmer with big flat feet. just do a survey of that town and you will find mister big feet sunning himself.

[Landfall38]

Definitely these are them! ;)

[kiwigirl]

http://www.trekinfo.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=318&d=1225701321

seems to be the same print :D

[rich]

Thanks for the help guys
Thought I had a breakthrough there:rolleyes:

[kiwigirl]

http://drjosephrock.blogspot.com/2005_04_24_drjosephrock_archive.html

found this post from Eastern Tibet area which has great pictures and a cave with the yeti footprint on it, I wasnt able to paste the pictures :(
I was actually looking up images on google on what Gompa dogs looked like and this was there , maybe the Gompa dog is related to the Yeti . .. :D

About an hour's drive and a 40 minute walk up a bumpy farm track southeast of town, this small temple is built in a cave, half way up a cliff. Local legend has it that the local people knew of the cave and its spring of "holy water" many hundreds of years ago, and visited it to pray for a good harvest. Then one day some primitive statues and simple structures appeared overnight. No one knew who did it, and it was attributed to the "Wild Man" or Yeren - the Chinese term for yeti. Another version I've heard is that the term wild man" was used to describe an unkempt hermit who lived in the cave, meditating for many years and whose personal hygiene and apparel - and perhaps his attitude - were somewhat, well, wild. You can now see the yeti's big footprints and hand [paw?] prints, enshrined in the small temple, reached by a short but steep walk up the cliff path. There is a fancy new temple being built at the foot of the cliff - go past it and look for the track branching off to the left, over a stone bridge.

If you want to make your own way to the temple, take the left fork from the main street just after the public toilets. You can't miss the smell!:D

[lazy climber]

It was a HOOBIE track, These are EXTREMELY rare (and mean) creatures that have adapted to all sorts of climates around the world. There are Swamp Hoobies, River Hoobies, Mountain Hoobies and of course the Great Snow Hoobie. The Yeti and the North American Big Foot are just smaller cousins to the Hoobie. Of course they are so rare that very few people have seen one so proving thats what your tracks are from will be difficult. I have spent years hunting these creatures and have never been able to bring a specimen back to civilization for proof of their existance.

At this point,as much as I would like to say you have seen a Hoobie or Yeti track, due to the lack of imagination in the scientific community I would have to go with the bear or big footed villager.

Regardless of what it was I would be going the opposite direction, as that looked like a big track and if you stumbled onto a Hoobie you would be a gonner, and a villager with feet like that would not be much fun either.

[Oli]

Reinhold Messner has been researching the yeti. He was at KMFF (http://www.mountainfest.co.uk/index.cfm) last weekend and my friend asked him about this. Apparently he is fairly certain the yeti is actually a bear, new evidence trickles in but nothing to change his belief.

Rich, maybe you should send him your pics. They may not be a conclusive but they are evidence, of sorts.

[rich]

Reinhold Messner has been researching the yeti. He was at KMFF (http://www.mountainfest.co.uk/index.cfm) last weekend and my friend asked him about this. Apparently he is fairly certain the yeti is actually a bear, new evidence trickles in but nothing to change his belief.

Rich, maybe you should send him your pics. They may not be a conclusive but they are evidence, of sorts.


Yes I've read his book on the subject a couple of times. Very interesting. Ultimately I agree with him although still like to keep an open and hopeful mind.

How would you go about contacting him to view the pics on the chance it is of interest? any clues?

[rich]

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/0005/q_n_a.html

a quote:
"Much later I find out that a Tibetan bear [a rare species of brown bear, according to Messner], in difficult ground—especially snow—puts the back foot in the footprint of the forefoot, so that two footprints appear as one. And the footprints look like those of a two-leg goer."

[rich]

Its really worth listening to the audio on that link. verdict is the Tibetan Bear.

[Escher]

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a quote:
"Much later I find out that a Tibetan bear [a rare species of brown bear, according to Messner], in difficult ground—especially snow—puts the back foot in the footprint of the forefoot, so that two footprints appear as one. And the footprints look like those of a two-leg goer."

That's very interesting...

[Oli]

How would you go about contacting him [Mesner] to view the pics on the chance it is of interest? any clues?

I don't know, sorry. Maybe his publisher of the yeti book will forward an email.

[kiwigirl]

I don't know, sorry. Maybe his publisher of the yeti book will forward an email.

it is worth trying, at least we will find out if we are likely to be hugged or eaten . .. by Bears next time we go to Nepal :D

[rich]

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/0005/q_n_a.html

a quote:
"Much later I find out that a Tibetan bear [a rare species of brown bear, according to Messner], in difficult ground—especially snow—puts the back foot in the footprint of the forefoot, so that two footprints appear as one. And the footprints look like those of a two-leg goer."

Although the snow was only a few cm deep, the fact that it was overlying an iced-ver stream might support this theory (difficult ground even for a bear?)